Comments on: Is It Really True? New Rules for the Game of Life Quiz ~ Motivate by Fear? http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz aaaaa Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:47:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Kay Stewart http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz/comment-page-1#comment-106 Kay Stewart Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:17:10 +0000 http://www.newageselfhelp.com/?p=114#comment-106 Hi Beth and Neill, please check the strange malfunction of the website. The line vanishes. Hence wierd type-o's. Please dump these if you wish, or edit, combine the first two. Thanks and love to you both. Wonderful question and dialog. Hi Beth and Neill, please check the strange malfunction of the website. The line vanishes. Hence wierd type-o’s. Please dump these if you wish, or edit, combine the first two. Thanks and love to you both. Wonderful question and dialog.

]]> By: Kay Stewart http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz/comment-page-1#comment-105 Kay Stewart Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:14:00 +0000 http://www.newageselfhelp.com/?p=114#comment-105 oops, the website for some reason makes the last twenty caharters of each line of type disappear from view. The last word should be "present". This is to say, rather than fear motivating me, what motivated me is a reminder to be present and his kindness in doing so without punishment. I think others would find it works too. oops, the website for some reason makes the last twenty caharters of each line of type disappear from view. The last word should be “present”. This is to say, rather than fear motivating me, what motivated me is a reminder to be present and his kindness in doing so without punishment. I think others would find it works too.

]]> By: Kay Stewart http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz/comment-page-1#comment-104 Kay Stewart Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:11:49 +0000 http://www.newageselfhelp.com/?p=114#comment-104 I was stopped several months ago and I was just on autopilot. IT was the route I always take. When the officer told me I was going ten mph over, but that he would just give me a warning I was so grateful because I was not being malicious, just unconscious. I think the warning kept me driving more slowly for many many months and just reading this topic brought it to me again. That and the zen meditation I am studying that helps me be resent I was stopped several months ago and I was just on autopilot. IT was the route I always take. When the officer told me I was going ten mph over, but that he would just give me a warning I was so grateful because I was not being malicious, just unconscious. I think the warning kept me driving more slowly for many many months and just reading this topic brought it to me again. That and the zen meditation I am studying that helps me be resent

]]> By: Dean http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz/comment-page-1#comment-103 Dean Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:56:51 +0000 http://www.newageselfhelp.com/?p=114#comment-103 Theres a speed limit?!? Geeez, and this whole time I thought it was a speed minimum! . Cicelys comment on asking us to put ourselves in the other persons shoes if we hit them in a wreck...she asks us how we would we feel... Well, in doing that, I discovered if I didnt like the person very well to start with, I might feel pretty good about it actually!...but in general, I value not hurting people even people I dont enjoy or respect.. I think most of us quickly thought of safety as a reason to have laws. As we all know, they dont work, who obeys traffic laws? Even yellow lights go 'pink' on us say if were running late? Some may think that even if not effective, without laws, crazy people would drive too dangerous. Of course I recall the true life situation where a man stole a tank, yes tank, and drove it all over Claremont smashing his way over city, state and federal law covered roadways until SWAT team members killed him on the freeway. Fear of punishment doesnt work... belief systems that hold that people cant be trusted, or regulate themselves dont work. Authority over us doesnt work. People will drive how they feel is safe or desired no matter what laws are inacted. So I applaud anyone who addresses encouraging making our belief systems to be more congruent with a more sane society. It is in that where we will find peace and true freedom devoid of dangerous authoritarian rule. Theres a speed limit?!? Geeez, and this whole time I thought it was a speed minimum! . Cicelys comment on asking us to put ourselves in the other persons shoes if we hit them in a wreck…she asks us how we would we feel… Well, in doing that, I discovered if I didnt like the person very well to start with, I might feel pretty good about it actually!…but in general, I value not hurting people even people I dont enjoy or respect.. I think most of us quickly thought of safety as a reason to have laws. As we all know, they dont work, who obeys traffic laws? Even yellow lights go ‘pink’ on us say if were running late? Some may think that even if not effective, without laws, crazy people would drive too dangerous. Of course I recall the true life situation where a man stole a tank, yes tank, and drove it all over Claremont smashing his way over city, state and federal law covered roadways until SWAT team members killed him on the freeway. Fear of punishment doesnt work… belief systems that hold that people cant be trusted, or regulate themselves dont work. Authority over us doesnt work. People will drive how they feel is safe or desired no matter what laws are inacted. So I applaud anyone who addresses encouraging making our belief systems to be more congruent with a more sane society. It is in that where we will find peace and true freedom devoid of dangerous authoritarian rule.

]]> By: Vickie Kolb http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz/comment-page-1#comment-102 Vickie Kolb Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:56:06 +0000 http://www.newageselfhelp.com/?p=114#comment-102 Speeding tickets do not stop speeders. I have witnessed people being stopped by the highway patrol only to take off and go over the speed limit again. The value of getting somewhere quickly supercedes the safety of themselves or others. Speeding tickets may stop some speeders for a time,however, after a period of time, they too, forget and continue speeding. Speeding tickets do not stop speeders. I have witnessed people
being stopped by the highway patrol only to take off and go
over the speed limit again. The value of getting somewhere
quickly supercedes the safety of themselves or others.
Speeding tickets may stop some speeders for a time,however,
after a period of time, they too, forget and continue speeding.

]]> By: chris gerhardi http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz/comment-page-1#comment-101 chris gerhardi Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:36:38 +0000 http://www.newageselfhelp.com/?p=114#comment-101 I believe that speeding, along with: overeating or passing thoughtless comments, results not from a complex life - but a simple one. If a life if filled with schedules, things-to-do and how-to-do, and the person is conditioned to act favourably to the rewards, then inattentiveness and ignorance of the larger picture become affirming to them. Instead of speed limits with penalties (or the opposite, of speed limits with rewards/tax breaks for compliance) there would need to be a different system altogether which captures the need for freedom and autonomy whilst promoting consideration for other's concerns. How about 3 options for self imposed speed limits, with information for each about risk of: Harm to others, damage to driver's car (in terms of corners, acceleration and braking required to achieve that speed) and damage to the environment (in terms of relative efficiency of engine performance). Some of these are complex, so a colour or shape coding systems would be more friendly... An example of this would be for an information roadsign: at 50 for this stretch of road x accidents per year happened x of which were fatal, tyre damage will be y, environmental impact will be z, at 40 for this stretch of road... This would both highlight the values that might want to be considered against the 'speeding friendly' needs of excitement, competition and efficiency. This choice could then be made intelligently, to expand options and responsibility, instead of fearfully, which reduces options and sparks resistance... :-) I believe that speeding, along with: overeating or passing thoughtless comments, results not from a complex life – but a simple one. If a life if filled with schedules, things-to-do and how-to-do, and the person is conditioned to act favourably to the rewards, then inattentiveness and ignorance of the larger picture become affirming to them. Instead of speed limits with penalties (or the opposite, of speed limits with rewards/tax breaks for compliance) there would need to be a different system altogether which captures the need for freedom and autonomy whilst promoting consideration for other’s concerns. How about 3 options for self imposed speed limits, with information for each about risk of: Harm to others, damage to driver’s car (in terms of corners, acceleration and braking required to achieve that speed) and damage to the environment (in terms of relative efficiency of engine performance). Some of these are complex, so a colour or shape coding systems would be more friendly…

An example of this would be for an information roadsign: at 50 for this stretch of road x accidents per year happened x of which were fatal, tyre damage will be y, environmental impact will be z, at 40 for this stretch of road…
This would both highlight the values that might want to be considered against the ‘speeding friendly’ needs of excitement, competition and efficiency. This choice could then be made intelligently, to expand options and responsibility, instead of fearfully, which reduces options and sparks resistance… :-)

]]> By: janet http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz/comment-page-1#comment-100 janet Mon, 27 Oct 2008 04:19:50 +0000 http://www.newageselfhelp.com/?p=114#comment-100 Alas, I think that the complexity of most people's lives necessitates that they operate on autopilot mode most of the time. Inattentiveness on the part of a driver must not be tolerated by society. Inattentiveness to the consequences of a decision or an action (perhaps a non-decision) has resulted in the myriad problems we've dumped on this poor planet. Until we can learn, as a species, to be attentive, I regret to say that I believe that punitive measures for the most dangerous/unacceptable lapses of attentiveness are useful. Alas, I think that the complexity of most people’s lives necessitates that they operate on autopilot mode most of the time. Inattentiveness on the part of a driver must not be tolerated by society. Inattentiveness to the consequences of a decision or an action (perhaps a non-decision) has resulted in the myriad problems we’ve dumped on this poor planet. Until we can learn, as a species, to be attentive, I regret to say that I believe that punitive measures for the most dangerous/unacceptable lapses of attentiveness are useful.

]]> By: Wesley http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz/comment-page-1#comment-99 Wesley Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:31:50 +0000 http://www.newageselfhelp.com/?p=114#comment-99 Yes fear is a great motivator but not a good tool for teaching. I think that teaching with fear sends a message that we should fear athority and I do not agree with that. I belive that if we teach with compassion and not fear our children will grow and learn to respect athority and not fear it, and that will set them up with tools they need to make good decisions, and an understanding that the function of athority is not to control but moderate. Yes fear is a great motivator but not a good tool for teaching.
I think that teaching with fear sends a message that we should fear athority and I do not agree with that. I belive that if we
teach with compassion and not fear our children will grow and learn to respect athority and not fear it, and that will set them up with tools they need to make good decisions, and an understanding that the function of athority is not to control but moderate.

]]> By: Marina http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz/comment-page-1#comment-96 Marina Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:11:23 +0000 http://www.newageselfhelp.com/?p=114#comment-96 Build safe roads for people who like driving fast. Build safe roads for people who like driving fast.

]]> By: Cicely http://www.newageselfhelp.com/main/is-it-really-true-new-rules-for-the-game-of-life-quiz/comment-page-1#comment-94 Cicely Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:26:26 +0000 http://www.newageselfhelp.com/?p=114#comment-94 I think fear is a great motivator but on the other hand that may send a message that fear should motivate our actions. I don't believe that. I think common sense, respect and compassion should motivate our actions. However, this is not easy because not everyone respects the law, not everyone wants to be compassionate, and not every one uses common sense. I am guilty of speeding because I just like driving fast. If I didn't adore being a Psychologist for at-risk youth I would be a famous female Nascar racer. I just like fast things and because of my strong leadership qualities I do have trouble with authority. Why lie? I don't want to be told I "have" to do something. But because I am an adult with a sound mind, I "have" to respect authority not just for safety but common sense. Bottom line is it just makes sense not to speed. In my case, the ticket has nothing to do with it. It comes down to being mindful of the consequences of your actions. No matter how good a driver you may think you are, the possibility of hurting someone else by your actions is always present. Wear the shoes of the other side. Ask yourself these questions and be honest with your answers. If you were speeding and hit someone, how would you feel? What if you were the one who got hit, how would you feel about the driver who was speeding? I think fear is a great motivator but on the other hand that may send a message that fear should motivate our actions. I don’t believe that. I think common sense, respect and compassion should motivate our actions. However, this is not easy because not everyone respects the law, not everyone wants to be compassionate, and not every one uses common sense. I am guilty of speeding because I just like driving fast. If I didn’t adore being a Psychologist for at-risk youth I would be a famous female Nascar racer. I just like fast things and because of my strong leadership qualities I do have trouble with authority. Why lie? I don’t want to be told I “have” to do something. But because I am an adult with a sound mind, I “have” to respect authority not just for safety but common sense. Bottom line is it just makes sense not to speed. In my case, the ticket has nothing to do with it. It comes down to being mindful of the consequences of your actions. No matter how good a driver you may think you are, the possibility of hurting someone else by your actions is always present. Wear the shoes of the other side. Ask yourself these questions and be honest with your answers. If you were speeding and hit someone, how would you feel? What if you were the one who got hit, how would you feel about the driver who was speeding?

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